Dying Patent/PVC

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I was searching through go-go boots online and I found many blue and purple hues but nothing that is that nice blue-purple type violet. I have to be really precise as this is for a cosplay. There are tons of white gogo boots out there, so I could always dye it that perfect color. I would be curious if anyone has a solution for dying patent/PVC with somethign that wont a) wash out/fade and b) wont chip/crack.
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  • Re: Dying Patent/PVC

    Thu, October 8, 2009 - 2:39 PM
    sorry to say it, but there is NO way you're gonna get dye to take on PVC or other similar fabrics.
    at that point, you'd have better luck coloring the boots with paintmarkers, permanent markers, or covering them with fabric and mod-podge.
    • Re: Dying Patent/PVC

      Fri, October 9, 2009 - 7:45 AM
      you are probably right.

      You might get an aniline dye to take.
      Aniline dyes bond at the molecular level exchanging on the valence shell level.
      They come in formulations that are soluble in water, alcohol or even oils and VOCs.
      So your delivery medium capacity is huge. Plus unlike all the pigment products usually associated with dyes and home and craft products they are not solids. All pigments are nothing but finely ground bits of colored material. They can be in the micron and smaller size but they are still coherent particulate media which is not absorbed by anything. They insinuate themselves in the pored and crevices and other interstices in the target media.

      aniline dyes are very different. The best way to get the dye to match up with the target media is to understand what the target is made from.
      Woodworkers use aniline dyes to achieve exceptionally brilliant coloration and deep rich tones in wood finishes. Wood is cellulosetic so water and alcohol work best on it. It is the molecular bond between the Lignun of the cellulose and the dye.

      PVC and most all other plactic resins are petroleum based to an aniline dye that is made to be soluble in oil should work.

      Of course the law of unintended consequences will work too. If you plan to wear a thing you dyed with aniline you are going to have the dye bonding to you and your skin. Once the stuff gets on it's almost impossible to get off. you gotta let it wear off. The stuff is a risk factor for cancer to so you don't want to be wearing anything with it.

      You are made from oodles of waters alcohols esters and lipids ( among other things) and the aniline dye will bond at the molecular level to one or more of those. Then it will migrate through your system and, well it's not pretty.

      I have heard of tatoo artists defaulting to anilines in their inks to get beautiful vibrant colors.
      I stay away from tatoos.
  • Re: Dying Patent/PVC

    Sat, October 17, 2009 - 2:48 PM
    I had some success dyeing a PVC-type fabric for my Halloween costume last year using regular RIT dye. I don't think you could get it to take a complete color change, but you may be able to shift the hue a substantial amount.

    I was using the thin fabric that has a shiny pvc coating on top of a polyester knit substrate. Mine was a lemon yellow, with a white background, and I needed it to be just a little warmer. I used orange dye, thinking the material would only take a tiny bit of the color, mostly into the backing not the PVC... wow, was I surprised! The PVC actual absorbed the color quite a bit, and came out darker than I intended.

    If the boots you are looking at have thinner, stretchy uppers, I think you'd have a good chance at shifting say a pair of blue boots to your desired shade of purple. If they are really stiff patent, that is not stretchy, I'd expect it to absorb a lot less dye. Maybe you can find a similar vinyl at your fabric store and test it?
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      Re: Dying Patent/PVC

      Sun, October 18, 2009 - 10:54 AM
      Yeah. Sounds like I could experiment with RIT dye. Honestly, the rest of the costume will be using latex. (Gods, I wish I had got the contact info of that one guy I met at LA Decom who did latex clothing). So my other plan would be for me to see how to glue latex to PVC. Then I could get the right color of latex and cover the boots.

      Kat
      • Re: Dying Patent/PVC

        Mon, October 19, 2009 - 11:00 PM
        I don't know if it would work, but you could try the spray paints that come in hairspray type cans and are sold in paint stores and maybe craft stores. They have the spray paints to cover different kinds of surfaces. Never hurts to try, or at least call a few places.
      • Re: Dying Patent/PVC

        Mon, November 2, 2009 - 9:27 PM
        Glueing latex to pvc boots sounds like a nightmare to me! Another option for cosplay boots is to wear shoes with vinyl "socks." If you could find patent leather shoes the correct heel and color, then you make a boot upper out of PVC that you dye to match... sew a lycra foot on the upper. Worn together, they look just like boots.

        You'd still end up having to dye some PVC this way, but you'd be dyeing uncut fabric, not whole boots, which would give you more room for trial and error.

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