http://craftyvixens.tribe.net/thread/1080233f-dece-4d9e-82b1-889963b30a65?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://CraftyVixens.tribe.net/thread/1080233f-dece-4d9e-82b1-889963b30a65#96049084-b2d3-4ba6-8187-e9fc04bc565a Hah. I went on Tribe tonight immediately after reading a post on another non-Tribe bulletin board that copied the Mark Simon article. Here's a refutation: http://www.boingboing.net/2008/04/12/countering-the-fud-a.html Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:43:33 GMT http://CraftyVixens.tribe.net/thread/1080233f-dece-4d9e-82b1-889963b30a65#96049084-b2d3-4ba6-8187-e9fc04bc565a Margaret 2008-04-14T05:43:33Z http://CraftyVixens.tribe.net/thread/1080233f-dece-4d9e-82b1-889963b30a65#b0f1e637-0776-497c-8ac9-e90612a54b54 Crafting as art, that's a whole other thread :) Oooh, ooooh, I'll start it! :X Sun, 13 Apr 2008 03:23:27 GMT http://CraftyVixens.tribe.net/thread/1080233f-dece-4d9e-82b1-889963b30a65#b0f1e637-0776-497c-8ac9-e90612a54b54 Sprout 2008-04-13T03:23:27Z http://CraftyVixens.tribe.net/thread/1080233f-dece-4d9e-82b1-889963b30a65#4d6e6162-0da9-438b-9003-c07e310cd1e9 SPark....always a step ahead of the rest of us. Sit down and have a cuppa. We'll all catch up... Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:15:58 GMT http://CraftyVixens.tribe.net/thread/1080233f-dece-4d9e-82b1-889963b30a65#4d6e6162-0da9-438b-9003-c07e310cd1e9 Fondue 2008-04-12T14:15:58Z http://CraftyVixens.tribe.net/thread/1080233f-dece-4d9e-82b1-889963b30a65#d52563ac-841b-4e10-8ee5-fdb817041667 It's about creation, and copyright. If that doesn't apply to crafting, then I guess crafting isn't an art, but I think of it as such. And this thing has been discussed on pretty much every other arts-related community I was on. I figured it was only a matter of time until somebody brought it up here. Sat, 12 Apr 2008 10:41:34 GMT http://CraftyVixens.tribe.net/thread/1080233f-dece-4d9e-82b1-889963b30a65#d52563ac-841b-4e10-8ee5-fdb817041667 SPark 2008-04-12T10:41:34Z http://CraftyVixens.tribe.net/thread/1080233f-dece-4d9e-82b1-889963b30a65#f8eaff83-2d9c-476f-a3e9-60e41f9e5df4 Forgive me SPark, I have never seen anything with regard to this subject. yet I'm curious how it applies to the context of this tribe. Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:27:44 GMT http://CraftyVixens.tribe.net/thread/1080233f-dece-4d9e-82b1-889963b30a65#f8eaff83-2d9c-476f-a3e9-60e41f9e5df4 Tatt 2008-04-12T09:27:44Z http://CraftyVixens.tribe.net/thread/1080233f-dece-4d9e-82b1-889963b30a65#e937b5af-808c-4e55-b5f9-df9cac64e266 Sorry, I was getting annoyed at seeing this thing repeatedly posted, and I forgot to include actual facts. The text of the bill itself: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/t2GPO/http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=109_cong_bills&docid=f:h5439ih.txt.pdf (You'll need to click the "continue to GPO site" link to get it.) A report about the situation that inspired the bill from the US Copyright office: http://www.copyright.gov/orphan/orphan-report.pdf I have seen one article mentioning the return of this bill, here: http://oncopyright.copyright.com/2008/03/17/orphan-works-are-back-on-congress%E2%80%99s-radar-screen/ However, the bill is NOT listed for the current session of congress. http://thomas.loc.gov/ is where you can look up current legislation. Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:35:33 GMT http://CraftyVixens.tribe.net/thread/1080233f-dece-4d9e-82b1-889963b30a65#e937b5af-808c-4e55-b5f9-df9cac64e266 SPark 2008-04-12T08:35:33Z http://CraftyVixens.tribe.net/thread/1080233f-dece-4d9e-82b1-889963b30a65#5f822179-1de4-4461-b8f4-59771e236eb3 If you see somebody posting about this article: http://mag.awn.com/index.php?ltype=pageone&article_no=3605&page=1 and starting into the paranoid, tinfoil hat routine about how the government is going to legalize art theft, THIS IS NOT TRUE. There was an Orphan Works bill. Said Orphan Works bill did NOT legalize art theft. Said Orphan Works bill was NOT pushed by freaking Bill Gates (good grief!) Said Orphan Works bill DIED and was not passed. It's over. It's done. We don't need to bother our congressman, or sign a petition, or whatever other action the people running around like Chicken Little and screaming about the sky falling on artists everywhere are advocating. THERE IS NO ORPHAN WORKS BILL RIGHT NOW. There was, it's dead, and can we PLEASE MOVE ON ALREADY? Sorry if I sound grouchy, but I'm really sick of hearing about this, and I want to head it off anywhere it hasn't yet spread before people get all worked up over nothing. Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:12:18 GMT http://CraftyVixens.tribe.net/thread/1080233f-dece-4d9e-82b1-889963b30a65#5f822179-1de4-4461-b8f4-59771e236eb3 SPark 2008-04-12T08:12:18Z