horseweed, marestail

topic posted Wed, April 30, 2008 - 4:17 PM by  Soooz: biker...
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Spent way too much time identifying this plant in my garden as a weed.
peanut.tamu.edu/images/wee...weed-01.jpg
www.ppws.vt.edu/scott/weed_id/erica.htm

In my research, I learned many other plants, like echinacea, soapwort, red clover are considered weeds, despite what we know about their medicinal value. I could not find anything about the redeeming value of horseweed, only that it chokes out other crops.

Anyone know of any use for it before I weed the garden?
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Soooz: biker/priestess
New York City
  • Re: horseweed, marestail

    Mon, May 5, 2008 - 9:37 PM
    The stalks are very good as the spindle in hand drill fire making. This is where you twirl a rod in a "board" until the powder from the friction of the two woods ignites into a burning ember. It is one of the easier woods to use.
  • Re: horseweed, marestail

    Thu, May 15, 2008 - 12:08 AM
    It is a nightmare to dig out! the roots can be 2 or 3 feet down. My allotment is covered in the stuff and if you don't get it out it 'spores' and spreads very quickly.If you keep picking the heads it kind of gives up eventually, but this will be ongoing! I don't think it has any use whatsoever, medicinal or otherwise!!
  • Re: horseweed, marestail

    Thu, May 15, 2008 - 7:47 AM
    Here's a little of what I found for removing this on the web:

    Cultural Practices:
    Horseweed is found mostly in thin turf and can occur following seeding. Horseweed will be found in landscape beds and along fence rows and other unmowed areas such as waste areas and fallow fields. Keep the weeds mowed and prevent the seedhead from developing. Follow a proper fertility program to promote competition from the turf.

    Herbicide Use:
    Make your postemergent herbicide application when horseweed is young and actively growing.

    It sounds like you might be able to control it a bit by "mowing" it down. Or you could use a weed whipper if it's too close to other plants you want to keep. I know there are other ground cover type of plants that might choke it out, but then they'd likely choke out some of your other plants/flowers also.
    • Re: horseweed, marestail

      Thu, May 15, 2008 - 8:36 AM
      I was able to pull them when they were small, so far, so good. I don't use any chemicals in my garden, I have only 350 square feet of planting bed. Pulling weeds is my OCD therapy. ;-)
      • Re: horseweed, marestail

        Thu, May 15, 2008 - 11:38 PM
        that sounds good! i wish my growing area was not so big! by the time i get half way through, they are 'shooting' again! with our brittish rain, and all the other chores, i just put black plastic over some areas, which keeps them down a little, although they are pretty much still trying to grow under it!...just a little slower!
      • Re: horseweed, marestail

        Fri, May 16, 2008 - 10:29 AM
        This sounds a little gross, and I'm not sure how he does it, but I was talking to a guy in our neighborhood last night and he says that to get rid of some of the weeds in his garden he uses dog pee (sprays the offending plant with a spray bottle) and the ph (or lack of?) kills it. I could see how this works as we have a male and female boxer and where they pee (especially if they both go in the same spot) it kills our grass.

        The guy has a couple of dogs, so I'm guessing he gets them to pee in a bucket sometimes or something. It sounds gross to me, but I know that he doesn't use other chemicals unless they're organic. I'm just not sure I'd want to go that far to keep away from chemicals (but I don't have a huge weed problem right now). I wonder if there is something similar that is completely organic in a store or online that you could buy. Just a thought.
        • Re: horseweed, marestail

          Fri, May 16, 2008 - 12:36 PM
          well urine is sterile, so no worries there! it's completely organic, (regular use can kill grass too, so be careful) it is also an excellent feed for cabbages and other plants, presumably not on the leaves.... i might try that! it's free after all!
          • Re: horseweed, marestail

            Tue, May 20, 2008 - 12:54 PM
            My backyard is home to 3 or 4 alley cats, that are fed by a neighbor 2 doors down. The cats use my yard for their bizness, the soil is full of worms. Squatters in my yard include several kinds of birds, squirrels and other urban wildlife. I'll pluck weeds instead of importing dog pee, thank you very much.
            The horseweed's gone, for now. ;-)
            • Re: horseweed, marestail

              Tue, May 20, 2008 - 11:46 PM
              I spoke to my gardener friend who said ' mand, if it takes three sprayings of glyphosate to kill marestail, do you really think 'wee' would do the trick?!' ...now i think about it.....

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